Nothing but good comes from our friend Alcohol - ever notice that?

I am so sorry for this guy and think this pub crawl event was a total mistake. Driving along Haddon Avenue yesterday was scary--lots of over-served celebrants staggering along the street. Speaking with others, i was not the only person who noticed. A St Patrick's Day Pub Crawl is an event that sounds good on the drawing board but not so much in reality. I hope Haddon Twp doesn't repeat this event.

The beast...the demon..,,,ALCOHOL!!

Haddon Ave was the definition of public intoxication last evening. Drunks trying to cross streets with cups of beer is some of what I saw. I am not surprised someone got hit. There was no one looking after this rowdy drunk crowd. I did not see a single cop or crossing guard but I did see fools pushing each other into the street and traffic yielding to the sudden unexpected bodies. I hope they find the guy that got hit was drunk, that way his people can hold all the taverns responsible, and the town for sanctioning such an event. Hopefully a message will be sent by our courts and they will PULL some liquor licenses and hold all, including the town, to the letter of the law.

Here's an idea...ban ALCOHOL! It will solve everthing, nobody getting hit, no more drunk drivers... it'll be great.......what's that you say? We did that and it didn't work? So we just tax the hell out of it just like cigarettes. OK, tax Pub Craws, at least the town can make a few bucks. Problem solved.

A person was hit by a car last night at the tail end of this event. I have absolutely nothing against drinking. What I don't want is drunks staggering up and down Haddon Ave. With proper oversight by the bars and law enforcement this could be a fun event. I saw drunks so the bars were not doing their job, and I saw no police officers, so they either were overwhelmed or just not put into place.
It would be good to hear from the Township about their perspective.

Seriously, when do we become responsible for OURSELVES....ban the Pub Crawl is total nonsense....sueing and taxing the bars is bs....and the beast...the demon ALCOHOL....ARE YOU FOR REAL....events like this are meant to bring business to the our small towns...the same businesses that help with our taxes.....so lets really come up with a solution....and banning the event or suing isn't the answer however, it would have been a better idea to have some cops directing traffic I mean instead of hiding and giving tickets to people going 5 miles over the speed limit on the way to work perhaps this would have been a better way to help with the crowd problem.... to Pull liquor licenses are you serious....what is this Prohibition...I am so sick of all the high and mighty bs it was an event and yes there were drunk people and rowdiness however, how did this really effect you? It was an unfortunate thing that happen but it wasn't the fault of this Pub crawl....people are so quick to blame. these establishments were trying to make money and these days its not an easy thing to do. so stop with the pointing fingers, the suing and banning and come up with a solution....and quite honestly be responsible for yourself don't rely on some bartender to decide if you have had enough to drink. For the record I have nothing to do with the Pub Crawl I just think its so ridiculous how people are so quick to crititize.

adt, I completely agree that people should be responsible for themselves. I am sorry that some people were not responsible yesterday and at least one person was seriously injured. This could be a fun, money-making event for the Township. It just needs better planning next time.

Thanks, ADT. Good to see someone with a working brain who doesn't think extreme measures should be taken every time there is an accident. We should ban all senior citizens from driving and walking as well because their reactions are slow and could cause an accident. LOL

So lemme get this straight. The Township sponsored the crawl? The TOWNSHIP? Brilliant.

This has been an event for a couple of years and it's the first incident I have heard about. Many towns do have these and have had for years. I don't usually jump to defend the township but while they could have some type of traffic control it is not their fault that it happened.

Brought to you by Mayor Teague (Irish), Commissioner Foley (Irish) and Commission Dougherty (you guessed it.... Irish).

I must say driving down Haddon Ave was embarrassing on Sunday. It's one thing to have a drink or two but another to witness sloppy drunks walking around town...

March 19th is St. Joseph's Day...the Italian Patron Saint. We Italian-Americans are forming a protest because there is no Pasta Crawl planned! Details to follow........

All the people complaining beer or whatever. I saw the thing happen. How do u know she wasn't on a cell phone crossing and not paying attention? How do u know it was a direct effect of the pub crawl. And people saying their were no police. Yea their was plenty. I did not see one fight the whole night or anything but good times every where. So before u become judgemental of a whole event get the facts. And if u so worried about avoid haddon ave next st pattys day. That day yesterday helped all them business small or big. So get off ur high horses

I love when people try to defend alcohol - I've been witnessing it all my life.....they will point the finger at the million different things, but not the real culprit. Sound a little too "retro" or "Temperance Union" for you....my apologies....open the newspaper, turn on newsradio, every day of any given year - and you will see ample evidence of the wonders of alcohol. The same people that are fired up about guns being evil and gun control, completely ignore the fact that alcohol kills so many more people many times over.

First, I believe Joe's comments above were aimed at demonstrating the reactionary nature of current political events. When bad things happen (e.g. the CT school shooting), the immediate reaction is to jump to unsubstantiated, debatable conclusions and attempt to pass laws which take away the rights of law-abiding citizens. In this situation, thankfully no one has been killed (yet). That doesn't mean measures cannot be taken in the future to make things even safer. It also doesn't mean that the event should be cancelled entirely. Sd0719 makes an excellent point in stating that the victim might well have been using a cell phone, not paying attention, and having nothing to do with the Pub Crawl when she was hit.
How 'bout some personal responsibility? Perhaps renaming the event? Pub "Call" -- might reinforce the idea that you're not meant to drink yourself blind so that you're CRAWLING from one venue to the next.

Regardless of the foreseeable injury situation, if it is true that the Township actually sponsored or supported the event in any material way, I would suggest that this was at best, imprudent on their part. Being pro-business is great and kudos for actively creating a buzz and commercial and social activity in your town. However, if they actually supported this event, at MINIMUM, they should have insisted upon a name change. I mean really.... Just because you have a lot of bars in the town, does not mean that you should even jokingly condone, let alone promote, something called a Pub Crawl. It should be called just about anything BUT that and should have all kinds of disclaimers, town was directly involved in the sponsoring or support of the event? I'm all for a social event and holiday celebration and even took my kids to one of these spots to eat before the party began, but the tone and execution of it if it should not trivialize or even jokingly promote irresponsible behavior, especially if it had governmental involvement.

i was at the event, and i was actually walking to the Irish Mile when this occurred, we heard the noise and when we turned to look back we saw 2 cars pulling off to the side of the road, our initial reaction was that they collided until we saw the girl laying in the street. a family member works with one of the local police departments and made a call right away. in fact there were probably @8 people who immediately grabbed their phones to call for help. the police and medics were there within a minute or 2. although there were a good amount of people intoxicated, especially the 2 that were trying to help the girl by attempting to flip her over before we stopped them from touching her, the township provided buses for patrons to use to keep them from walking from establishment to establishment. the police took statements from many people, including the male driver (who did not seem to be intoxicated, but time will only tell) and the female driver of the other car that pulled over, a mother with her son. i can tell you that the police marked out 2 items in the street near the girl, a plastic cup and a small black object (whether this was a small purse or a phone i do not know). this was the first time my group was at this event and we had a terrific time, I'm sure there will be something done to make it safer but if the township does not sponsor this then there will be no buses and you will have thousands of people walking the streets and that will be a bigger issue

I guess no one read the part in the article were it said she was at a gas station, and was not known if she was part of the pub crawl.

I understand everyones point on this but I do want to piont out there was another person hit either Sunday night or Monday night ( no drinking involved) on the Haddon Twp. Audubon boarder. We are all not up in arms about this.... I belive this was a hit an run! Why?