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Six More Street Signs Vandalized in Haddonfield

The incidents all occurred on one night.

Haddonfield police this week reported six more streets signs damaged beyond repair.

The incidents occurred on Jan. 23, but were first reported by police this week.

Signs were damaged at:

  • Warwick Road and Kings Highway
  • Mount Vernon and Haddon avenues
  • Lansdowne Avenue and Kings Highway
  • Redman and West End avenues
  • Eves Land and Kings Highway
  • S. Hinchman Avenue and Kings Highway West

Dozens of signs have been stolen or damaged over the last year. Borough officials say replacing them is costly.

Reed Rothchild February 11, 2013 at 06:48 PM
Lighten up. Kids will always be doing dumb things, always have and always will. I'm not justifying any of the nonsense including stealing street signs or leaving trash around town but let's not criticize all children/teenagers and parents from the actions of smaller percentage. Most, if not all, parents would certainly punish their children if caught breaking the law. As for WorksinHaddonfield stating "The kids of Haddonfield are on that trip of entitlement, worse than some towns. Most are spoiled, thoughtless and selfish, the Me generation" . That is just a stereotype. Granted most stereotypes hold a lot of truth but that's just ignorant to state. The character and education of the "kids of Haddonfield" is statistically proven to be on par or superior to most surrounding areas (and nationally) by their academic and athletic achievements. There are thoughtless and selfish people in every town, social class and professional environments. As you said it's not fair to lump everyone together.
Pro-Haddonfield February 11, 2013 at 06:49 PM
I guess we can disagree on that one. I don't think spoiled and good coexist. Growing up I knew plenty of kids that had more than than others but that didn't make them spoiled. Spoiled isn't what you have, it's whether or not you appreciate what you have. Clearly you are referring to the Maple Ave incident. No doubt that was awful and good judgement wasn't used. The daughter of the owner gave kids the keys and they ran with it and it got out of hand. No doubt punishment comes with that. When police are involved, getting a lawyer is common sense and I think a legal right to have representation (Miranda). That event is not exclusive to Haddonfield, kids use bad judgement as hard as we try to guide them properly. You can bet that while I'm not rich, if my kid needs representation, I will get it for him. I would hope you would do the same for your child.
Pro-Haddonfield February 11, 2013 at 06:56 PM
Put these kids up against all of Camden County and I bet they fall above average. Yes I agree. I think I read our rankings in the paper somewhere. Does a kid who plays chess never use poor judgement? No wrong. What's your point?
Susan Hoch MD February 11, 2013 at 07:06 PM
Three comments to Pro-Haddonfield. The nature of average is that the majority of the children in town CANNOT be above the average. Half of them will be below average for the town. If you need to feel better by comparing the kids to some other town, I guess that is ok but half of the kids in this town are below the average for the town. The other half is above the average., Hence the quote fromn Lake Woebegon which perhaps you did not understand. The reference to the Chess Team was a joke. In terms of your statement that if your child needs representative, you would get it for him or her. I would hope that if your child defecated in someone's piano, you would get a psychiatrist or therapist for them BEFORE you got a lawyer. The Maple Avenue event was beyond sign vandalism and displayed a complete contempt for others. I can't even begin to understand it based on my own parenting experience.
Pro-Haddonfield February 11, 2013 at 07:16 PM
1. No I understand. You do not. Haddonfield Kids rate above average county wide....statewide was my point. I know what average means. I was an above average student. 2. Never know when you are joking because you always come across as angry. 3. The defecation is nothing more than urban legend. Didn't happen. That said, what did happen there is awful. Wonder if the owner's daughter apologized for providing access to the house. 4. Again, we all know that your parenting experience was that of perfection. Your kids did not wrong, never once used bad judgement. That is great, really. Glad to hear it.....again.
Susan Hoch MD February 11, 2013 at 07:23 PM
I guess I don't understand why you are so competitive. Who cares how the children in Haddonfield compare with those of surrounding towns? Clearly there are children in Camden City without the parental support and schooling that the children in Haddonfield get. Those children have all the potential of the children in Haddonfield but they don't have the opportunities that children here do. We all know this. Why are you so insecure that you have to compete like this? I did not think my Chess Team joke came across as angry - perhaps not really funny - but trying to show that we have a stereotype of who does the vandalism and the Chess Team does not fit that stereotype. You seem very angry - perhaps you need to get a life beyond being a Haddonfield parent and organizer of sports fields so that you will be more satisfied and not need to constantly compare yourself and your town to others.
Reed Rothchild February 11, 2013 at 07:25 PM
& again & again & again
Pro-Haddonfield February 11, 2013 at 07:38 PM
Organizer of sports fields...hmmm...I'll have to add that to my resume. Until now I had Volunteer. For the record Susan, this isn't a competition. I and others feel it necessary to call you out on your nonsense. Who cares...? You sit here and rip the kids and parents of this town and don't expect a response? Good luck.
Joe Taxpayer February 11, 2013 at 07:56 PM
Sue, Adam Lanza wasn't an athlete. He was apparently in the tech and camera clubs and was considered a smart young man having attended college at age 16. We all know how it ended though. Are you really going to continue to paint with such broad strokes because of a few? Any evidence to back up your claims on who the perps are? That be like us saying all Docs in your specialty are hacks. I am sure some are but some aren't - hopefully you are not. If Haddonfield is only average, then how bad can all of those other schools be that can't hang with us on the averages?
Maryann Campling February 11, 2013 at 07:58 PM
Was masturbating into stuffed animals part of the urban legend? Look, there are some outstanding kids/teenagers in town, most who are mid-range average in IQ and behavior and some.....how do I say this and be PC?.....problem kids. I know this because I talk to parents who don't have their heads in the sand, the police, and have experienced some situations first hand. Acknowledging the truth may tarnish Haddonfield's image, but if you don't acknowledge a problem, you can't fix it. To paint every kid with a broad brush is wrong....to ignore the facts is worse,
Susan Hoch MD February 11, 2013 at 08:08 PM
That was my point about the Chess Club and the stereotype. Exactly. Adam Lanza on the other hand is probably another example of poor parenting (or perhaps a depressed and our mentally ill parent) who bought the guns and in an attempt to bond with him took him out to learn to shoot. Talk about accountability. Fundamentally, Nancy Lanza was responsible for the deaths in Newtown - they were her guns he used and she did not behave as a responsible gun owner should have, let alone one with an emotionally disturbed adolescent. Again, I never said whether Haddonfield was average or not - that would be comparing it to somewhere else which I did not do. What I said is that, like Lake Woebegon, all of the children in Haddonfield are above average,. That is also a joke - from PBS radio,
Pro-Haddonfield February 11, 2013 at 08:13 PM
Exactly my point. Stop painting broad strokes and acting as if our children are in crisis. This all comes off as so dramatic. Stuffed animals? Never read that one or saw it in the police report. Suspect also urban legend.
Joe Taxpayer February 11, 2013 at 08:39 PM
Barack Hussein Obama was in the Chum Gang ! Bill Clinton had an extramarital affair in office and lied about it. These are people who the majority of society seems to admire. There are always problem kids and not all problem kids come from bad parented households. Stop with the BS and go find the perps who detroyed the signs. It wasn't my kids!
Susan Hoch MD February 11, 2013 at 09:41 PM
I frankly don't see how Presidential affairs relate to sign vandalism but if you are going to bring up such things, I would think of Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings, Franklin Roosevelt and Lucy, Dwight Eisenhower and his driver (can't think of her name right now). Probably others as well but I don't know if Benjamin Harrison had an affair or not. I would certainly go to the police if I knew anything about the sign vandals and I would hope that other kids who know who did this would tell their parents and /or the police rather than being afraid of being "snitches". Does anyone know if this issue is being discussed at the high school? And speaking of crime at the High School, did they ever find out who took the $2,200 from the admissions office?
Reed Rothchild February 11, 2013 at 09:49 PM
Hey Joe T, While we're at it let's not forget about George W's DUI and drug use (among many other things) as well as his wife's incident where she was recklessly driving and killed another driver. They seem to have turned out "alright" depending on who you ask. I think they came from "decent" well to do family's too. Ask George Sr.. They obviously lawyered up though.
Worksin Haddonfield February 11, 2013 at 09:55 PM
No, I'm not speaking of the Maple Avenue incident but I am speaking from experience. I'm only describing what I've seen around the town. The kids I encounter are rude, inconsiderate and have a attitude about them. Sorry if you just don't see it or want to accept it.
Joe Taxpayer February 11, 2013 at 09:56 PM
Or Chappaquidick or Menendez' prostitutions or McGeeevy's lover and fake marriage or JFK and Marilyn? Corzine's affairs and criminal activities on MF Global. I can do this all night.
Joe Taxpayer February 11, 2013 at 10:00 PM
Of course you don't Sue. Society has been in decay for quite some time and you lecture us. I guess it just goes to show watch out who you hold out as role models. Kids have been doing stupid things since the beginning of time. Some smash mailboxes, some commit crimes, some do drugs and some just vandalize street signs. Considering our proximity to the state's murder capital, I'd say we are pretty fortunate. Shouldn't you get back to lumping all Haddonfield kids in the same bucket? Have you asked the BOE? Why don't you do that and report back?
Shana Marshall February 11, 2013 at 10:12 PM
@drewp- when you witness an incident, please call the Haddonfield Tip Line at 856-429-3000. You may remain anonymous.
Pro-Haddonfield February 11, 2013 at 10:53 PM
You must be hanging with the wrong crowd. I've always said there are bad eggs. I'm realistic but first hand know the overwhelming majority of the kids here are great. That I accept.
drewp February 12, 2013 at 02:15 PM
Thanks for the info Eric and Shana. I'll look into it. Most, if not all times when there's something going "on", a call to the police or "tip-line" is futile. The "perps" are long gone by then and the problem just occurs another night. Again, I feel that as neighbors and adults, we shouldn't feel like it isn't our responsibility to at least acknowledge to the offending individuals that we know they are out there and what they're doing (by a shout out the window or door, etc.) I realize that not everyone is going to feel comfortable to walk out in the street in the middle of the night.
Worksin Haddonfield February 14, 2013 at 04:53 PM
Amen!
Worksin Haddonfield February 14, 2013 at 04:55 PM
Unless you were there, you cannot prove that the piano and stuffed animals are legend. Wake up.
Worksin Haddonfield February 14, 2013 at 04:57 PM
I'm in my 40s so I don't "hang". I've worked in Haddonfield long enough to have experienced these kids on the street and personally. I doubt the IQ is above average. Half the things I hear them say had to be what Daddy or Mommy said at the dinner table.
Reed Rothchild February 14, 2013 at 05:57 PM
"Worksin Haddonfield" sound like a class act. You are obviously biased against these children. Statistics and achievements of the students in Haddonfield prove that they are above average and generally quality people on their way to becoming excellent contributing members of society...who will no doubtingly be above talking trash on children from other towns, where they don't reside, and don't actually know. Especially re-hashing one awful occurrence from a decade ago. What percentage of children have gone on to college and won various state titles since then? Check on that and re-evaluate your criticism. Thank you sir. Luckily you don't "Livesin Haddonfield"
Pro-Haddonfield February 14, 2013 at 06:35 PM
Amen.
Worksin Haddonfield February 14, 2013 at 07:00 PM
I was not aware of official proven statistics that show that Haddonfield generates quality people. I can’t imagine how that information was comprised, unless it was by a member of your town. I have absolutely no reason to be biased against these "children". I could care less about the percentage of residents who went on to college and who has won state titles. These have nothing at all to do with the integrity and morals of a person. Yes, I’m sure that all Haddonfield “children” will grow up to be fine, upstanding citizens who are virtually perfect. Just as I expected, you think your offspring are faultless and will always be. You're evidently biased since it's obvious that you live in Haddonfield. Since you are assuming that I don’t know anything about Haddonfield or the “children” who live there, I’ll correct you. I actually do know a lot of these kids as I have lived in a town right next to Haddonfield for over 30 years. I’ve also worked with some of these “excellent contributing members of society” over time and have been embarrassed more than once at the sense of entitlement they carry and the lack of intelligence, not to mention most importantly, the serious lack of social skills. To be blunt and honest, I wouldn’t live in Haddonfield if I were paid to. It may sound childish to you. However, I’d rather live in reality than live a delusional life sheltered by my Gingerbread home and illusion of my family’s grandeur.
Pro-Haddonfield February 14, 2013 at 07:06 PM
She sounds bitter Reed. I think you let this one go. She's going to lump every kid into one category based on her limited interaction with them. We who actually live here will never get past her bitterness and "her" reality as distorted as that appears.
Susan Hoch MD February 14, 2013 at 07:23 PM
Rather than disparaging WorksinHaddonfield, maybe you should stop and think. This is the impression that someone who does not live in Haddonfield but works in our town has of our students. While it is a gross generalization, it must spring from experiences that WordsinHaddonfield had. This is what one person who has encountered our young people has seen. WorksinHaddonfield doesn't represent ALL the people from out of our town but she or he represents an opinion and it is an opinion that we should consider thoughtfully. Is this the way we want people who come into our town to see us? That's what I would ask. And how can we improve the way we and our young people interact with those who are not from our town? Just saying that our kids are the best doesn't make it so. And to Reed Rothchild who claims our children are above average, I would ask - as compared to whom? Half of the Haddonfield children are below average for the town of Haddonfield. Obviously our kids score high and go more to college than children from Camden City. To those who are given much, much is expected.
Reed Rothchild February 14, 2013 at 09:15 PM
Such negativity. Here's the response you've been hitting "refresh" every 5 minutes for. Now go take a look in the mirror and try not to feel sorry for yourselves. Although I'm guilty for posting (not spamming, I guess I'll need my Doctorate for that) on here as well, this whole debate ridiculous. It's an unfortunate reflection of a town and it's youth held by a small and ignorant minority of people like yourselves. It's entertaining to read to an extent but offensive when "gross" generalizations are made, especially coming from a bogus pedestal of perfection that some preach from. Luckily most people don't harbor such hostility and only somebody killing time at work like myself acknowledges such ignorance.

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