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Civility Rules at Annual Haddonfield Town Hall Meeting

Commissioners, school board members and other borough officials answer residents' concerns at annual Haddonfield Civic Association "town hall" meeting

Leaf pick up, the Brandywine retirement home expansion and copper gutter thievery were on the minds of about 40 borough residents who attended the Haddonfield Civic Association’s annual “town hall” meeting Thursday night at borough hall.

The association is aptly named. Civility ruled the night, even though some of the most contentious issues facing the borough, namely, the proposed Bancroft purchase and installation of artificial turf fields, were specifically designated to be discussed for fully half of the meeting.

The meeting format allowed people to submit questions and have them answered by the appropriate borough official in a calm and careful way.

“This format allows people to have a voice and to have a thoughtful, non-emotional answer to their questions,” said David Siedell, association president. He added it’s one of the only venues where borough commissioners and board of education members, both “taxing” authorities, are present and speaking at the same meeting.

At the two-plus hour meeting, one of the longest in the association’s 31-year history, residents heard school board President Steve Weinstein and Superintendent Richard Perry, as well as borough commissioners, discuss the tax increases that working families and senior residents will face if a scheduled referendum on the purchase passes.

The board of education and the borough have proposed jointly to purchase and redevelop the property, located next to the high school on Kings Highway East, and to install artificial turf on the high school’s main field and a new field to be constructed on the site. Both projects are included in a $16.9 million public bond referendum set for January.

“It is costly. But what’s the cost if we don’t do it?” Weinstein asked of the opportunity the Bancroft purchase provides. “The turf fields are part of a vision we created from the beginning, to create a campus around our high school.” He and Perry mentioned the current safety issues students face, including packing into cars to drive across town to their practice fields and games, as well as inferior grass fields that are impossible to maintain because of overuse. They pointed to a private initiative among residents to raise $500,000 toward the turf’s cost as well as state and county open space funds to help defray development costs.

But , a borough resident for more than 40 years, has led a small but outspoken group of residents over the past few months that is opposed to many decisions being made by borough officials, not the least of which is the Bancroft deal. They are angry that the town would embark on these projects they say will further burden already-besieged taxpayers who pay nearly twice the state average in property taxes.

Indeed, Kelly has used the comments section on Haddonfield Patch articles as a platform for his message, often with biting criticism of borough government, stirring debate from diverging town interests. Along with fellow citizen Cliff Brinker, he created the Facebook page Haddonfield United in June to bring other residents into the conversation.

“They (borough officials) don’t know what the costs are going to be and the future costs are very sketchy,” he said Thursday night. “There are people who just can’t live here anymore because of the taxes. And they can’t come up with a real number.”

Other officials called on to answer residents’ questions included Fire Chief Joe Riggs and Chief of Police John Banning. Former Mayor Jack Tarditi moderated the question and answer session.

Bill Tourtellotte October 19, 2012 at 03:09 pm
This traditional event was very informative and interesting with excellent joint participation from a wide range of public officials. If you missed it, the video will be posted on haddonfieldcivic.com shortly and you can scroll to the parts that interest you. It was all good stuff, examples such as the segments on how new technology is helping our volunteer firefighters and residents and the latest on the Mechanic Street project were included among many others. Thanks to all of our resident leaders and participants. BTW, while we have all heard and read about the BOE Bancroft proposal, this latest Q&A session was exceptionally well articulated by both Steve Weinstein as well as Richard Perry. This discussion will be on the second half of the meeting on the online video.
Taxpayer October 19, 2012 at 04:14 pm
The fact that a minimum of a half million of taxpayer dollars (and possibly much more with overruns) will be spent WITHOUT VOTER APPROVAL in 2013, plus another million of taxpayer dollars every 8 years, for decades to come, to replace turf on those two fields (and even more for a third field if the referendum passes), was completely confused in the answers. We won't get a vote because the turf group has raised their $500K. Yet we can't afford leaf collection, roadwork, policing to keep up with the burglaries in town, our own court....Thanks for putting the Bancroft questions at the end of the night and thanks Jack T for ending the meeting without reading all of them. So much for every question being answered, however unclearly.
Taxpayer October 19, 2012 at 04:25 pm
The two fields we won't get to vote on are the stadium and the practice field, Anniversary Field.
Bill Tourtellotte October 19, 2012 at 05:30 pm
The HCA has put the Bancroft questions at the second half of the meeting for the past 3 years because the meeting has never been a single topic forum. Department and Commission heads donate their time to attend and answer public questions in a collaborative forum. The concern is that if the questions are all mixed together, it would be unwieldy to jump around and also would potentially serve to discourage or trivialize the questions from residents on less prominent topics. Having said all of that, the HCA is always open to resident ideas for holding forums on important topics and it is possible that if other past and upcoming outreach programs by the BOE are not already covering the topic sufficiently, the HCA may consider a single topic forum on the BOE proposal before the referendum date. I do not speak for the HCA, however, I do know that that public information and discussion on important topics is the major reason why the group exists.
One last point, while the impression was left with the writer above that the answers were not sufficient for them, I will say that I was under the distinct impression that ALL questions submitted were read except that a logical time cutoff point prevented a last one or maybe two submitted from making it into the discussion.
Brian Kelly October 19, 2012 at 06:19 pm
Taxpayer, your point is of paramount importance. Even turning a blind eye to the environmental issues, if the Haddonfield Field Turf Committee is so adamant about turf they should pay for all conceivable turf costs.
The residents of the town are not even close to being aware of how much turf and the problems associated with it will cost. Turf was tied to the Bancroft bill and if it gets installed without the town having a say it will show our elected officials are not interested in serving the town as a whole and cater to a small pocket of influence. The Bancroft referendum is shrouded in enough mystery as it is. When projects of such magnitude are presented the way they are, costs exceed expectations. I don't think our officials fully grasp the agitation residents are feeling about this thing being pushed on them. If the referendum is to pass, people have a right to know exactly what their sacrifice will entail. Haddonfield United and the people we strive to give a voice to are not a small group, we are the majority of the town. The simple issues of community services that Taxpayer mentioned are the everyday concerns of residents. We deserve to vote on field turf, it's as simple as that. If that's denied so is our voice.
Bill Tourtellotte October 19, 2012 at 06:43 pm
Believe me, I'm not Mr Pro Turf or anything, but there is some merit to the argument that the most intensively used fields are getting hammered and simply cannot hold up under the volume of use they are getting with no rest. The fact that the sports participation rates in Haddonfield are incredibly high, is a phenomenal "problem" to have for all kinds of very important reasons. Having a multisport turf surface that can handle a more intensive use and take a good amount of pressure off from the other fields and having it at the high school campus is not an outrageous proposal. Again, I'm not a booster for this aspect, but in fairness, we need to admit that in some ways, turf amplifies the usefulness of a field to such an extent that it is like getting an actual additional field for the costs of the turf. Plus, reducing the shuttling of kids all over town for when they could otherwise stay on campus for their sports and school activities is a safer and more reasonable. While I do not believe Haddonfield needs to have extravagant facilities, I certainly do not believe that we should be happy or supportive of having sub-par facilities, which is in fact what we now have.
Taxpayer October 19, 2012 at 07:27 pm
Jack couldn't stay a couple more minutes for 1 or 2 more questions? Maybe he just didn't like the questions.
Bill Tourtellotte October 19, 2012 at 08:01 pm
I suppose he could have taken more in but it had been a lengthy meeting and folks did have all evening long to present their cards. I was in the front row but easily could have missed something, but i had the impression that one card came in as they were wrapping up the meeting. While I do not typically speak for the organization in personal posts like this, I certainly can assure you that it was never the intent of the HCA to stifle discussion. Quite the contrary. And the HCA has taken no official position thus far on the issue that was being discussed.
Maryann Campling October 20, 2012 at 01:24 pm
I appreciated the time spent on the first part of the meeting. Especially the recognition of our Fire Department and all of the wonderful folks who devote their time and energies to various volunteer committees/commissions. They don't make a dime for their efforts, nor receive special considerations from the Borough....they work hard because they, like most of us, love this town. The Bancroft portion was just another dog and pony show....I was glad I was wearing boots because it started to get deep quickly. Mr. Weinstein stated that "people" felt that the BOE was best equipped to deal with Bancroft. My question: who exactly are these "people"? Mr. Perry spoke eloquently about the vision of the BOE/Bancroft for 15 minutes, but never answered the question directly about the turf fields being a "done deal." My gut tells me that this well-heeled, well-connected special interest group will get their way, regardless of the environmental and financial unknowns.
Brian Kelly October 20, 2012 at 05:54 pm
Yes, the done deal question prompted an uncomfortable and quick response to the merits of a Haddonfield campus. It was pretty funny as most people sitting in the auditorium knew who the two guys were who made the done deal remark.
I know the resident who submitted the question sure did! For all the questions asked that covered the same old ground, there was one that seemed to slip by everyone but I thought was an honest and telling reply. When asked about how the cost of the Bancroft/turf would affect senior citizens and many of the families of our town, Commissioner Borden answered that it was a serious issue and one that the residents of the town really needed to think about before making their decision. It was the the first time I had really heard that from our elected officials, that the impact on the lives of many of our residents could far outweigh the need for expansion and turf. It was an honest and thoughtful answer and one I appreciated. I often think about what life would be for our town if the Bancroft referendum never existed, that Bancroft never thought about leaving in the first place. We already have terrific schools and if there were never options for new fields we would just find ways to take care of the ones we have. These are not tough problems to tackle if we're on the same page. We have to decide, as a town, what our priorities really are.
Maryann Campling October 21, 2012 at 01:39 pm
Well, it looks as though the "done deal" question was answered. Refer to a notice in current "What's On" about an "upscale" celebratory event by the Turf Committee in November. Business as usual in H-field....$$$ talks...unanswered environmental issues,.and the long term financial strain on the rest of the taxpayers don't matter.. At least we won't be the laughing stock of the CC anymore....whew! I'll be able to sleep tonight.
Brian Kelly October 26, 2012 at 12:18 am
Most of the town has no desire for field turf. Its costs and potential problems will be transferred to the taxpayer for good. If it gets put in without input from the people shouldering the burden the Bancroft referendum will be the first casualty in its wake.
Bob Phillips October 26, 2012 at 04:57 am
Jack has spent many years doing great work for our town.We need to take time to thank him, not ridicule.
Thank you, Bob Phillips

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